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	<title>Comments on: Do application server vendors really understand deployment?</title>
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		<title>By: Vincent Partington</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/11/13/do-application-server-vendors-really-understand-deployment/comment-page-1/#comment-93097</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent Partington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Iwein Fuld:&lt;/b&gt; Deployit can automate deployments to the three application servers mentioned in the blog in a standard manner. That means that the way people deploy won&#039;t need to chance when migrating a system from, say, WebSphere to WebLogic. They can continue to use Deployit and then point each application to the new environment when it has been tested to work on the new appserver. Things that remain to be done are the setup of the new middleware environment and port/test your code for the new appservers. BTW, another way Deployit helps here is the overview it provides: you can see what applications have been deployed to what environment so you can see how your migration is progressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Iwein Fuld:</b> Deployit can automate deployments to the three application servers mentioned in the blog in a standard manner. That means that the way people deploy won&#8217;t need to chance when migrating a system from, say, WebSphere to WebLogic. They can continue to use Deployit and then point each application to the new environment when it has been tested to work on the new appserver. Things that remain to be done are the setup of the new middleware environment and port/test your code for the new appservers. BTW, another way Deployit helps here is the overview it provides: you can see what applications have been deployed to what environment so you can see how your migration is progressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Partington</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/11/13/do-application-server-vendors-really-understand-deployment/comment-page-1/#comment-93096</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent Partington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Marius:&lt;/b&gt; We are working on providing a downloadable version by the end of Q1 2010. It will provide support for WebSphere, WebLogic and JBoss application servers, but it will have a plugin API you use to add Glassfish functionality. In the meantime you can attend one of the webinars we host every two weeks or so. We always announce them on our website, http://www.xebialabs.com/. And of course, you can always &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:vpartington@xebialabs.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mail me&lt;/a&gt; if you have any questions. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Marius:</b> We are working on providing a downloadable version by the end of Q1 2010. It will provide support for WebSphere, WebLogic and JBoss application servers, but it will have a plugin API you use to add Glassfish functionality. In the meantime you can attend one of the webinars we host every two weeks or so. We always announce them on our website, <a href="http://www.xebialabs.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.xebialabs.com/</a>. And of course, you can always <a href="mailto:vpartington@xebialabs.com" rel="nofollow">mail me</a> if you have any questions. <img src='http://blog.xebia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Partington</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/11/13/do-application-server-vendors-really-understand-deployment/comment-page-1/#comment-93075</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent Partington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Dave Jones:&lt;/b&gt; To be honest, I was surprised by my own conclusion as well. Having spent way too much time spelunking in the depths of wsadmin, coming up for air and finding WLST and twiddle in my way made me appreciate WebSphere just that bit more. ;-)

I just wish wsadmin was a lot faster. You could say that is the price for a reliable transaction based management interface, but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Dave Jones:</b> To be honest, I was surprised by my own conclusion as well. Having spent way too much time spelunking in the depths of wsadmin, coming up for air and finding WLST and twiddle in my way made me appreciate WebSphere just that bit more. <img src='http://blog.xebia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I just wish wsadmin was a lot faster. You could say that is the price for a reliable transaction based management interface, but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marius</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/11/13/do-application-server-vendors-really-understand-deployment/comment-page-1/#comment-93074</link>
		<dc:creator>Marius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also been thinking about this sort of stuff lately, this is definitely a problem that needs to be solved soon.
I can&#039;t seem to find a place to download Deployit, maybe I&#039;m a bit optimistic.
Is there any plans to support glassfish in future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also been thinking about this sort of stuff lately, this is definitely a problem that needs to be solved soon.<br />
I can&#8217;t seem to find a place to download Deployit, maybe I&#8217;m a bit optimistic.<br />
Is there any plans to support glassfish in future?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Jones</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/11/13/do-application-server-vendors-really-understand-deployment/comment-page-1/#comment-93054</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like seeing that comparison of deployment capabilities between the major J2EE appserver vendors.  I&#039;ve done automated deploys in WebSphere for longer than I care to admit, but it&#039;s good to see that apparently WebSphere is more evolved than the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like seeing that comparison of deployment capabilities between the major J2EE appserver vendors.  I&#8217;ve done automated deploys in WebSphere for longer than I care to admit, but it&#8217;s good to see that apparently WebSphere is more evolved than the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Iwein Fuld</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/11/13/do-application-server-vendors-really-understand-deployment/comment-page-1/#comment-93053</link>
		<dc:creator>Iwein Fuld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really baking my noodle is the problem of migrations of running systems. What&#039;s Deployit got to offer in that area?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really baking my noodle is the problem of migrations of running systems. What&#8217;s Deployit got to offer in that area?</p>
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