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	<title>Comments on: Fitnesse &#8211; Selenium integration struggles</title>
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		<title>By: Keith Sterling</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/04/23/fitnesse-selenium-integration-struggles/#comment-91701</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Sterling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 07:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,

I have a full DSL implementation of Selenium in Fitnesse available for all to use at http://www.magneticreason.com/tools/fitnium/fitnium.html

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>I have a full DSL implementation of Selenium in Fitnesse available for all to use at <a href="http://www.magneticreason.com/tools/fitnium/fitnium.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.magneticreason.com/tools/fitnium/fitnium.html</a></p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Powers Foss</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/04/23/fitnesse-selenium-integration-struggles/#comment-91642</link>
		<dc:creator>Powers Foss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also combined FitNesse with Selenium RC to form the basis of our automated functional test strategy. It works quite well and we have a team of nearly 30 QA testers authoring their tests in FitNesse utilizing Java fixture wrappers around the Selenium calls. We&#039;ve found that with only a basic knowledge of XPath, the majority of the QA team can be productively automating tests without any programming experience. This keeps the so-called &quot;test automation team&quot; size down to a very small number (3) needed to support the functional tests, any custom fixtures, and execute the load &amp; performance testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also combined FitNesse with Selenium RC to form the basis of our automated functional test strategy. It works quite well and we have a team of nearly 30 QA testers authoring their tests in FitNesse utilizing Java fixture wrappers around the Selenium calls. We&#8217;ve found that with only a basic knowledge of XPath, the majority of the QA team can be productively automating tests without any programming experience. This keeps the so-called &#8220;test automation team&#8221; size down to a very small number (3) needed to support the functional tests, any custom fixtures, and execute the load &amp; performance testing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cirilo Wortel</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/04/23/fitnesse-selenium-integration-struggles/#comment-91617</link>
		<dc:creator>Cirilo Wortel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob,
In this team the developers were just doing unit testing. We have found that adding a functional tester to our teams is a recipe for success and if done correctly makes additional acceptance testing by the customer redundant. Also a tester can focus more on the business while the developers can fully focus on technical issues. This is for us a proven strategy, besides in my opinion testing and developing are just two different specialties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob,<br />
In this team the developers were just doing unit testing. We have found that adding a functional tester to our teams is a recipe for success and if done correctly makes additional acceptance testing by the customer redundant. Also a tester can focus more on the business while the developers can fully focus on technical issues. This is for us a proven strategy, besides in my opinion testing and developing are just two different specialties.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Neighbors</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/04/23/fitnesse-selenium-integration-struggles/#comment-91586</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Neighbors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is nice to see how other agile teams are approaching functional testing.  Please keep sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nice to see how other agile teams are approaching functional testing.  Please keep sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/04/23/fitnesse-selenium-integration-struggles/#comment-91585</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of &#039;agile&#039; team has a separate tester writing functional tests? Why aren&#039;t the devs doing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of &#8216;agile&#8217; team has a separate tester writing functional tests? Why aren&#8217;t the devs doing it?</p>
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		<title>By: Seu Enium</title>
		<link>http://blog.xebia.com/2009/04/23/fitnesse-selenium-integration-struggles/#comment-91584</link>
		<dc:creator>Seu Enium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can use *chrome instead of *firefox. It resolves all the problems about changing domains during the navigation.
About Fitnesse integration with Selenium, I&#039;ve used it for a while but I haven&#039;t like it. Debugging in Fitnesse is awful and web tests generally crash and you have to debug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use *chrome instead of *firefox. It resolves all the problems about changing domains during the navigation.<br />
About Fitnesse integration with Selenium, I&#8217;ve used it for a while but I haven&#8217;t like it. Debugging in Fitnesse is awful and web tests generally crash and you have to debug.</p>
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