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	<title>Comments on: Beware of transitive dependencies&#8230; For they can be old and leaky</title>
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		<title>By: Pieter vd Meer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pieter vd Meer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm,

Although i agree that transitive dependencies can be hell sometimes. I don&#039;t think maven or the library at stake is to blame here.

The problem is in the testing, when doing a load/stress test it should resemble the actual load on the system. 
Running a test that does the same thing 1M*1M*1M times is not a test. Just something to see if the result is always the same, and trust me as long as you are not doing creative FP calculations it will be the same.

The advice is, run your load and stress test to simulate the load the system will actually recieve, change the request data!

Pieter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm,</p>
<p>Although i agree that transitive dependencies can be hell sometimes. I don&#8217;t think maven or the library at stake is to blame here.</p>
<p>The problem is in the testing, when doing a load/stress test it should resemble the actual load on the system.<br />
Running a test that does the same thing 1M*1M*1M times is not a test. Just something to see if the result is always the same, and trust me as long as you are not doing creative FP calculations it will be the same.</p>
<p>The advice is, run your load and stress test to simulate the load the system will actually recieve, change the request data!</p>
<p>Pieter</p>
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		<title>By: Jeroen van Erp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeroen van Erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Markus,

This is true indeed, except that we didn&#039;t want to let the machine get this far as it was a production machine. once it it the top, we needed to restart it asap, and not let it get too slow. That&#039;s why we choose for doing a manual dump :-)

Regards,
Jeroen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Markus,</p>
<p>This is true indeed, except that we didn&#8217;t want to let the machine get this far as it was a production machine. once it it the top, we needed to restart it asap, and not let it get too slow. That&#8217;s why we choose for doing a manual dump <img src='http://blog.xebia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Jeroen</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Kohler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 
you don&#039;t really need to trigger a heap dump manually in case of an out of memory error. 
You can just use the option 
-XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError and a heap dump will created automatically. 

Regards,
Markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
you don&#8217;t really need to trigger a heap dump manually in case of an out of memory error.<br />
You can just use the option<br />
-XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError and a heap dump will created automatically. </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Markus</p>
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